My Profile on Schauspielervideos

How to Get Cast in Germany

Here are the places you need to be.

In America and the U.K. there are a plethora of casting notice boards; online, offline, paid subscriptions, and free which can make looking for a job (not necessarily getting one) easier. There are a few reasons why that’s not the case here in Germany, the main one being that acting is considered a trade. That means you need to have studied the craft at a reputable school, which is very subjective.

In theory, it’s a great policy that keeps most amateurs from clogging up casting directors’ mailboxes. But what about those of us who have studied abroad, not at a university but somewhere like Stella Adler, The Actor’s Studio, or one of the many other great places to learn the craft of acting? Hate to break it to you but, it doesn’t count, unless… Unless you can prove you’ve worked in the business for at least 10 years. That will get you a membership to the Bundesverband der Film- und Fernsehschauspieler (BFFS) which is sort of like Screen Actor’s Guild — sort of, in that it’s not a union but it does offer some base guidelines and support. Being a member will give you some legitimacy and is a good start. Some of these notice boards cross over into also being databanks for actors and productions but we’ll cover databanks in another post.

Now on to the Casting Notice Boards:

CASTUPLOAD is relatively new on the scene and geared toward the German market. It has proven itself the darling of German casting directors. It’s basically a huge databank but they also post castings. It’s free to join and you can also link it to your account on Crew United. I would show you a screenshot but they insist on showcasing my age (supposedly only for the casting director’s eyes) and that ain’t nobody’s business. Don’t get me started on that rant — in Germany, you must include your date of birth and age on every casting platform and audition form you submit. I prefer the way it is in the States — you’re as old as you look. Amen.

Crew United Crew United is another website that began in Germany but now is representative of many countries in the EU. It’s basically the European version of IMDB and is widely used. You’ll find casting notices in their “jobs” section. Most of their postings are for low/no paying jobs but once in a while they’ll post something at standard pay; especially if it’s very specific (i.e. They’re looking for a Mandarin/German-speaking POC from Mozambique).

You can access their casting notices for free but if you’d like to see what’s in development or pre-production (which can be extremely helpful if you, like me, are proactive and want to network, you’ll have to sign up for full membership (59,90 Euros) but you’ll simultaneously be listed on Schauspielervideos.de which is used as a casting databank by many casting directors. Their layout looks great, too.

This is my page on Schauspielervideos (photo credit — author)

e-TALENTA which goes by the name CASTFORWARD in Germany is another Europe-wide casting portal. There is no need to join both of their sites. Membership in one will get you listed in the other. It’s free to join but if you really want to get the most use out of it, you’ll need to anti up for their pro account which costs 89 euros per year.

Photo credit — self. This is my profile on Castforward.

What I really like about the above example is that should you choose to use the “about me” option, every profile starts with a quick introduction video that lets casting directors, directors, and producers see how you come across — what your essence is. They are also a great way to let people know what you look like right now without professional makeup. And lastly, in case you’ve made some major changes to your look, for example, grown a beard (not me, obviously), cut or dyed your hair, or suddenly decided that getting a facial tattoo would be a great idea, (if so, you might need to re-think your life choices -just saying), your “about me video” would be the place to showcase those changes until you get your new headshots.

IMDB.com IMDB is the industry standard for production companies and actors alike. It’s one of the first places casting directors go to check out what you’ve done. If you don’t have an imdb profile, I suggest you take the time to make one. It has just implemented a new casting notice system. It’s so new that I really can’t report on it yet but it looks very promising. While I can’t recommend their casting board just yet, I can recommend becoming a full member ($15.95 monthly or $124.95 annually). As a full member, you’ll have access to films in development and pre-production lists as well as direct links to the production company’s or the casting director’s websites.

451.ch This is a Swiss platform but they have a pretty far reach. They often post audition notices.

Casting Network offers a free option which is really meant for extras or “Kleindarsteller”, and a premium option which is intended for professional actors. Their premium membership costs 40,- a year. With this, you’ll have access to and be able to apply to casting notices for professional actors that match your profile, casting directors (as well as what they are currently casting and how they accept submissions), acting schools, and current workshops. They also put out a blog with industry insights and updates.

In actuality, there are many more casting notices posted on dedicated Facebook pages, Instagram, and casting databanks (which I will cover in another post). Until then, see you in the green room.

Screen Shot 2013-12-29 at 18.05.31

5 Sites to Watch Indie Films on Online

Workshops are a natural way to stay sharp and make sure your skills are up to par when opportunity comes a callin’. Equally important though is watching other great performances.  Obviously there’s mainstream film but don’t overlook what’s coming up on the indie side of the film world.  There are some amazing sites dedicated to showcasing the bast in new film talent.  Here is a list of the best websites to view independent short and feature films.

 

Subscription Services
SnagFilms.com

Indiepixfilms.com: This site offers really high quality indie films to purchase as dvd’s or to order “on demand”.  At 3.99 a movie, their prices are comparable with other on demand sites.

IndiePixUnlimited.com
Indieflix.com: Indieflix offers a huge selection of films from shorts to full length features.  They cater to the filmmaker as much as their viewers.  For instance, filmmakers can join for free and while others can buy their service at a low monthly subscription rate that is packed with value.   They have film curators (like Allison Willmore and Eric Kohn from Indiewire; two professional film critics) who weed out the best of the best.
IndieFlix

Indiepixunlimited.com  Is another subscription based service brought to you by The Los Angelos Times, Filmsnobbery, and Filmmaker.  You can get your first month free.  After that you pay $7.95 a month.  This is another site where filmmakers can upload their film for consideration (payment is transparent and depends on how many views you get).

FREE

Filmnet.com is another social network for film freaks.  The higher a films popularity the higher its ranking .   They offer professional films, web series and music videos from independent filmmakers, artists and studios.  Reviewing is done by critics and users and you can interact with other film fans and filmmakers on the community forum.

Filmnet.com

SnagFilms.com:  is an ad supported social video viewing platform that offers films that offers viewers the chance to discover, view, and recommend their favourites to social media platforms like Facebook, twitter and google+.  Viewing it is a snap online, via app, xbox or kindle, among other things.  They are also film distributors who acquire the rights to film festival favourites.  They have an extensive online library.

Snagfilms.com

Unlike USA based services like Netflix and Hulu+, all of these services are available around the world.

1930's Accent from Katharine Hepburn

Mid Atlantic Accents

As an actor who does a lot of voice work, I’m often asked to do a “Mid Atlantic” or “Trans-Atlantic” accent.  Oh, that elusive country somewhere between N.Y. and London that just does not exist. What my clients really mean, of course, if that they want me to not to speak in a “twangy” voice (which I don’t anyway).  They want a neutral, or standard, American accent.  The Mid Atlantic accent is a now-abandoned affectation from the period that saw the rise of matinee idols and Hitchcock’s blonde bombshells. If you were to talk like that today, people would think you had serious delusions of grandeur. But in the films and newsreels of the 1930’s and 1940’s all you heard was this fake British elocution.  That’s because it was taught not only in finishing schools but also by the Hollywood studio system.

So, even though the country of Midatlantia doesn’t exist, the mid Atlantic accent does (or at least it did). It was made famous by actors like Cary Grant,  Douglas Fairbanks Jr, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Eleanor Parker, and Grace Kelly, just to name a few.  It represented an upper class upbringing from somewhere in the Northeastern region of the United States.  Its instantly identifiable to anyone who’s ever watched a classic movie.  And, as with so much of pop culture, it trickled down to the masses who wanted to emulate their idols.  This style of speaking was epitomized in the 1930’s and 1940’s but rapidly began to disappear after World War II.  I don’t know if it was the rise of actors like John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart or the surge in American pride, but by the 1960’s this accent had all but vanished.  The video Wings Over the Golden Gate is an excellent example of this style as is this clip from Philadelphia Story starring Katherine Hepburn, Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart.

For this session of the Weekly Workout we’re working on two plays.  The first is Iron, which is a Scottish play by Rona Munro and the second is called The Violet Hour by Richard Greenburg.  The Violet Hour is set in 1930’s New York and centers around 5 characters who all either are, or strive to be, upper class Americans.  That means this accent comes into play big time.

Our dedicated group of actors really like to be challenged.  So even though each week is really a continuation of the rehearsal process as opposed to a performance, we like to be as authentic as possible in our characterizations.  That means actors will research the styles and social circumstances surrounding their characters and that includes speaking with the correct accent.  The 1930″s really was a different time.  Things seemed much more “affected” but it can be a trap to act affected.  Actors will have to find the truth of their characters within the parameters of the times they live in.  This can be extremely challenging but its definitely also very rewarding.

Actions__The_Actor_s_Thesaurus__Amazon.de__Marinda_Caldarone__Englische_Bücher

How Keep Your Performance Dynamic

We all know that a good performance is a carefully connected dance of need driven actions.  But sometimes, it can be hard not to refer back to our favorites time and time again.  When you need a little something to spark the imagination, this slim little volume of action words will do the trick.  It helps you find the perfect description for every beat so that your performance remains dynamic and unpredictable.  Why just “tempt” when you could allure, attract, bribe, cajole, coax, entice, induce, influence, lure, seduce… Why “stop” when you could curb, block, confound, constrict, constrain, control, dampen, delay, discourage, encumber, fetter, gag, hamper, handicap, halt, hinder, hold, impede, inhibit, moderate, muzzle, obstruct, oppress, quieten, repress, restrain, silence, stifle, still, subdue, suppress, throttle, trammel…

You can see how each word subtly influences the way you would enact your performance.  As an exercise during rehearsal, try using at least three variations of each word then pick the opposite word and try three variations of that.  For example, antonyms for “Oppress” are: aid, assist, comfort, help, make happy, please, soothe, benefit, calm, compliment, delight, encourage, give in, inspirit, let go, praise, release, yield, surrender, boost, and gladden.  Often when you try the opposite of what you think your action should be, you’ll end up with something that’s unpredictable and layered.

Our art is made up of words and actions. The more you have in your toolbox, the more varied you’ll be.

Go ahead and give it a try.

Risa-Bramon-Garcia.jpeg.644x2400_q100

Want Casting Directors to Know Who You Are?

You wonder how casting directors are going to find you. Of course you do! Whether you have an agent or not, you’re out there ready to go to work and you want casting directors to know how great you are. You send us postcards. You e-mail us newsletters. You follow us on Facebook. You self-submit. You even send along Starbucks gift cards around our birthdays. You go to casting director workshops and wait two hours for your five minutes in the room with us. But nothing happens. Why is that? It’s disheartening. It’s frustrating. What more can you do?

First of all, don’t despair. Know that we very well may acknowledge your efforts without you even realizing it. If we’ve seen you do great work somewhere, you’re likely in our “favorite actors” files. There may not be a job or a role right this minute for you. We may not even be working at the moment. But your talent is deeply appreciated.

That said, don’t wait around until we open that file. And don’t rely on the mailings. If we know how wonderful you are, remind us with consistent great work. If we don’t have a clue, produce wonderful work that we’ll discover. What’s going to get our attention is the strong work you’re doing all over the place. You’re bringing the house down on stage. You’re in class working out consistently. You’re creating content in your own short films, videos, and webisodes. You’re writing scripts and articles. You’re putting up a comedy sketch show every week. You’re doing exceptional work when you attend workshops. You’re out there doing the best work of your life. Casting directors, directors, writers, and producers will hear about it. We’ll see you. We’ll support you. We’ll bring you in for a role. Hell, we might even cast you.

There’s still the fable in L.A. (and other towns) that you’re meant to showcase your work on the stage primarily to get hired in film and television. While the L.A. theater scene has evolved over the past several years, some still believe that stage work is a vehicle for getting screen work. Getting a job this way may be a byproduct of doing excellent work on stage. But you must be doing your best work in a production, in class, and in a workshop because you love to act and you’re compelled to be in the work all the time—not because your goal is to book a guest star on a show. You have to wake up and fall asleep craving the artistry of it. You have to love it for its own reward. You’ll be doing better work. You’ll be happier. And those people who can hire you elsewhere will be drawn to your talent. Audiences and professionals alike are desperate to experience extraordinary work, to celebrate it, and to ultimately reward it.

We truly are one large (and sometimes not-so-large) community of artists and professionals. We track down the fantastic work you’ve created, get excited about it, write about it, tweet about it, and hire it. We want to be a part of it. It’s exciting.

A couple of years ago, I went to see John Pollono in the incredible play he wrote and starred in, “Small Engine Repair.” The play had some buzz around it. Jon Bernthal was in it, and it was my kind of theater. So I trekked to Pico from the Valley, hopeful that I wouldn’t be disappointed. John’s work, the play, and the production were extraordinary. I was blown away. I instantly engaged in a steadfast working relationship with John and have cast him in “Masters of Sex” two years later and championed him and his play, which is now in rehearsal in New York at MCC Theater.

John works hard. He’s incredibly talented, but for him it’s about the doing his best work whenever he can. And he’s finally getting the accolades he deserves. What’s really interesting is that he just wants to continue creating dynamic, spirited work. He cares most about doing personally rewarding, challenging theater. That’s why he’s succeeding.

Not everybody appreciates that rolling up your sleeves and getting down to the hard work daily is imperative. Here’s the real secret: If you’re willing to work tirelessly, you’ll outrun everyone else. If you’re willing to engage in the work with passion and conviction, you’ll be dancing triumphantly atop the Rocky steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. And the people who need to find you will. After all, who else is jumping up and down at the top of those steps in the cold every morning at dawn?!

Risa Bramon Garcia is partnered with Steve Braun in The BBG Studio, dedicated revolutionary acting and auditioning training. New career changing classes and workshops are happening now. Career and audition coaching and taping are in full swing. For more go to www.bramongarciabraun.com.

For the past 30 years Risa has worked consistently as a director, producer, casting director, writer, and teacher, collaborating with some of the most groundbreaking artists in the world. Having directed two feature films ‐ the cult classic, “200 cigarettes,” and “The Con Artist” in Canada – Risa’s also directed for television, including multiple episodes of “The Twilight Zone” for New Line/UPN, and shows for HBO, Lifetime, and Comedy Central. She’s directed dozens of plays in New York (The Ensemble Studio Theatre, Second Stage, Manhattan Theatre Club) and in Los Angeles. Risa’s casting resumé includes more than 65 feature films, classics such as “Something Wild,” “At Close Range,” “Angel Heart,” “Fatal Attraction,” “Wall Street,” “Talk Radio,” “Jacob’s Ladder,” “Born on the Fourth of July,” “JFK,” “The Doors,” “Sneakers,” “The Joy Luck Club,” “True Romance,” “Speed,” “How To Make An American Quilt,” “Dead Presidents,” “Twister,” “Benny and Joon,” and “Flirting With Disaster;” and numerous television shows, including “Roseanne,” “CSI:NY,” “The Cape,” and most recently “A Gifted Man” for CBS and the pilot “Rewind” for Syfy. ” Risa served as a producer on Oliver Stone’s films “Heaven and Earth” and “Natural Born Killers,” which she also cast. She’s currently casting the new Showtime series, “Masters of Sex.”

 

Thanks to Backstage.com for the wonderful article from Risa Bramon Garcia.

Michael Fassbender by Nino Munoz for GQ 2012-000

Yes You Are (good enough)!

In the HBO documentary, Casting By, the late casting director Marion Dougherty, talks about how it didn’t really matter to her if actors bombed auditions. Or sucked. Or weren’t great all the time. What mattered is that she saw something in them and knew that eventually there would be a role that would come along to match the essence of that particular person. She should know as she discovered all kinds of talent from Al Pacino and Jon Voight to Glenn Close and Diane Lane. All of these varied and different human beings whose careers she helped start certainly are originals. That’s the common denominator. (And also that she always trusted her gut about people.)

And it sort of raises the question . . . What is talent? Does everyone have it? What is “it”?

From a scientific standpoint; yes, we all possess innate, inner talent. We all have vast resources of potential and possibility within us waiting to be uncovered and utilized. The process for actors (and for all people, really) is about discovering, cultivating, nurturing, harnessing, and finally expressing that talent. And that takes work. Technique is simply a vehicle for letting your talent be expressed. Emotionally, instinctually, physically. And talent is simply how you do what you do.

Ultimately, it’s you.

Your approach, your style, your intuition, your physiology, your tendencies, your physicality, your hopes and fears, your blood and guts, your passion and pain. What you bring to a role is unlike anyone else. It doesn’t mean it’s necessarily better – but it is uniquely yours, because of the unique life that you are living. And that’s all you’ve got. Ever. This one life.

Talent, then, becomes about unapologetically bringing yourself to the work (and being shown how to do that). And the only way you’re going to do that and get there (besides having great casting directors ultimately see that quality) is by giving yourself permission. You simply have to stop doing it for other people. For acceptance. For someone to love you. Or get you. Or acknowledge you. Or validate you.

It’s tough because we live in a world where we’re constantly seeking validation through the external: Facebook acknowledgments, twitter mentions, casting callbacks and agency acceptance.

Michael Fassbinder had a watershed moment in his career when he finally decided that he was “good enough”.

He most certainly is.

And so are you.

You’re good enough to get the job and have an agent and be on a show and get paid for your work and have an amazing career. You’re good enough to lead by example and inspire others and tell your own unique story and trust that people will want to listen. You’re good enough to stop second-guessing everything or stop doubting yourself continuously or listen to the advice of hundreds of other people or take thousands of different classes feeling like you’re always in search of “something missing”. You’re good enough to be loved and be happy and have your dreams come true and not always feel like you have to have it all figured out and still be okay with being a continuous work-in-progress.

That’s talent. That’s good enough.

In fact . . . it’s outstanding.

 

Thanks to Anthony Meindl for this wonderful article.  Please check out his website – its just filled with informative and inspiring articles like this one.

Kevin Spacey Embodies 9 Great Actors

I am a huge fan of Kevin Spacey.  I think he’s one of the most talented actors around.  What I didn’t know if that he’s an impeccable impersonator.  During his interview with James Lipton for the Actors’ Studio Kevin nailed impersonations from nine different, iconic actors.

Jimmy Stewart

Johnny Carson

Kathryn Hepburn

Clint Eastwood

John Gielgud

Marlon Brando

Christopher Walken

Al Pacino

Jack Lemon

This is truly unbelievable.  It made me laugh and to be honest, more than a little green with envy.  The man has mad skills.

Constantine Stanislavski

What the Hell is Method Acting

I have to admit, when I went to acting school a 100 or so years ago, we were taught about Stanislavsky.  We were told about Lee Strasberg, Stella Adler and Uta Hagen… I think Sanford Meisner might have been mentioned as well, but it wasn’t Method acting as we think of it today.  We did have the magical “what if” which has carried me though many years, situations and scenes and I still use it today.  But maybe I should take a sec and explain what “method” is because, even though actors are loath to admit it, there’s a lot of confusion surrounding the subject.    It is nothing more than a technique, or rather different techniques like sense memory and affective memory, that enable an actor to express feelings and actions authentically and as if they were happening in real time.  It began with Stanislavsky who had several epiphanies when he was still a student in acting school in Moscow.  There he developed exercises that help in creating authentic seeming situations and characters. He called this his “System” and wrote all about his experiences and the exercises he created in his book “An Actor Prepares“, which every actor should definitely read.

In the 1930’s he moved to New York and, along with Lee Strasberg he formed the Group Theater.  About 10 years later, Strasberg formed the Actors’ Studio.  It was Strasberg who actually coined the phrase “Method” to distinguish how what he did was different to what Constantine Stanislavsky was doing.  What he actually said was something along the lines of, “Constantine does that but “my method” is this… That got shortened to Method which later became Method Acting to distinguish it from Classical Acting techniques.  The basic difference between the two is that Method acting focuses on bringing internal situations out while Classical acting techniques are much more physical, or external in nature.

A lot has happened in the field of acting since the 1930’s.  Method continues to evolve with many famous teachers putting their own special twist on it.  Personally, I think this is great.  We’re not all the same so why should the same techniques work for everyone?  At the moment, the two most famous contemporary teachers are Susan Batson and Larry Moss both of whom focus quite a lot of attention of affective memory.  Personally, I like this approach, though I feel like if you only use this kind of preparation you can’t really incorporate another character – you are only really ever bringing parts of yourself out into the open.  It works for me but I also like to combine parts of Classical acting techniques like learning how to use the body in different ways as well.  I find changes in external movements, postures, rhythms, and vocalizations affect how I feel on the inside and add layers and textures to my characterization that internal preparation alone couldn’t achieve.  Basically these external changes allow me to use my internal work to create someone totally new.

That’s why starting this October, the Atelier will be featuring coaches who specialize in teaching this combination of internal and external preparation.  The first coach is Sarah Perry who will be here next month to teach Movement for Actors.  After that we have Paul Miller who has developed a workshop that teaches how to incorporate Animal Work into performance and characterization (I actually wrote a post about the actors that use this technique some time ago).  Lastly, starting in January, Giles Foreman will be here to teach a four week block (spread out over 8 months, one a month every other month, to allow time to assimilate the techniques) called the Psychology of Movement and Character Analysis.

 

Movement for Actors with Sarah Perry

Interview with Sarah Perry

A lot of actors, especially those who only focus on method acting, don’t realize how important movement is to building a character.  Unfortunately, this means they’re missing out on huge opportunities to create something unique and completely different from themselves.  In this interview, I asked Sarah Perry, who will be here next month to teach actors how to use their bodies to incorporate a character fully, a few questions…
[divider style=”dotted” height=”40px” ]
1.  How did you get your start as a movement coach? 

It was really a process that evolved, I can’t precisely remember when it actually started. I have always been passionate about acting, movement and teaching and the three just naturally combined over the years. I had great teachers who inspired and encouraged me to teach, and fortunately I had people who were crazy enough to want to listen to me. I love to share and I love to learn and I love being part of a creative process. I’d like to think that my enthusiasm and passion for my craft gave me my start – the rest came from building contacts and working very hard at what I love to do.

2.  You recently worked as a movement coach on Jupiter Ascending.  Can you tell me how your experience on that film was different than some of the other jobs you had?  What’s Channing Tatum really like (and is he as adorable in person as he is on the big screen)?  🙂
Yes, everyone was adorable! 😉 Ha Ha. As you can appreciate,  I am contracted  not to speak about the film until after its release, so it is hard to be specific. However, I was confronted with some exciting new challenges and the three months were definitely filled with lots of research, problem solving, creativity and fun! This was perhaps the biggest production that I have worked on to date, for that length of time. It was an amazing experience – can’t wait to see it – released July 2014!!
3.  What are some of the most common problems you see among actors who haven’t had movement training?

I think the most common problem among actors who haven’t had any movement training is the fact that they don’t realise or think that they need any training. Its like with everything – until you delve into a topic orpractice, you don’t realise what you don’t know and what’s out there to help you in your chosen craft. In my opinion actors without movement training are often quite unaware of the power of their body as a tool. I see many actors often adopting cliche gestures and postures which are contrived as opposed to organic and free. You really do notice those actors who are aware of their body and free from tensions, habits and they are generally much more engaging to watch.

4.  How does movement training help actors to incorporate their characters?

We all move differently, we all stand differently and behave in different ways, understanding the body and movement in more detail allows us to discover more readily these subtle and powerful differences – which may have been overlooked had one had no training or at least had the space to explore and discover. If a character has a certain illness or condition or are in a particular emotional state, it is great to consider the body in terms of this and how we can truthfully convey the appropriate storytelling through our physicality as well as intention and voice.

5.  What are three things actors can take away with them after attending one of your workshops?

-Understanding yourself through your body is not only important, but liberating and fun!
-Have some tools which enable you to make some quick physical character decisions, especially when in a casting.
-To get a deeper understanding of what you may need to personally work on -if you want to continue on your movement journey.
-To understand that we are all different and the body tells a powerful story, understanding why we can’t move in a certain way is just as important as being able to move in a certain way.

 

Thank you, Sarah!  Sarah’s 2 Day workshop is in October on the 19th and 20.

Annette Bening Says…

So many of today’s films have tons of technology.  This can be extremely cost efficient (for instance when you use a blue or green screen to put you on the moon or any other exotic location) but it also means that more and more, everything is ruled by technology which puts huge demands on an actor’s concentration.  Annette Bening says “You have to be ready when they are”.  But how you get  yourself “there” before its time to shoot your scene will depend on what kind of actor you are.  Every one is different.  Some like to goof around with their co-stars while others need to stay in the “zone”, still another person my have to go off by themselves entirely.  The important thing is to know what works for you because when the moment comes you need to be ready to connect to everything that’s important: the other characters, your subtext and your objectives.

 “I remember hearing someone say, that good acting is more about taking off a mask than putting one on, and in movie acting, certainly that’s true. With the camera so close, you can see right down into your soul, hopefully. So being able to do that in a way is terrifying, and in another way, truly liberating. And I like that about it”.

Annette Bening

Do you have any special techniques that help you stay focused when technology is getting in your way?